BMW Drivers side air bag recall July 2015 letter

[stephenkirsh]

Called my stealership to make an appointment for my tail light recall and airbag.

Said they're out of parts for the next few weeks.

They need the car all day.

No loaners.

I hate this place.

[derbo]

Called my stealership to make an appointment for my tail light recall and airbag.

Said they're out of parts for the next few weeks.

They need the car all day.

No loaners.

I hate this place.

Where is this buddy? I went into Weatherford BMW without an appt at 10am and car was picked up at 4:30pm on a Monday.

[stephenkirsh]

Hansel. Santa Rosa.

[danewilson77]

Called my stealership to make an appointment for my tail light recall and airbag.

Said they're out of parts for the next few weeks.

They need the car all day.

No loaners.

I hate this place.
:rofl

No flame suit required!

[derbo]

Hansel. Santa Rosa.

PO of my car serviced it there. They didn't level the headlights AIMed at the floor. I can't say I'm a great fan of that particular dealership. Maybe you can try and talk to Sonnen or Weatherford or Concord. I'm sure they wouldn't mind stealing your business from Hansel :)

[stephenkirsh]

I might call sonnen. Others are just too far away considering traffic.

[cakM3]

Got my ZHP scheduled for the airbag recall tomorrow with a loaner from my dealer.

[derbo]

I might call sonnen. Others are just too far away considering traffic.

Sorry I don't know anyone in service at Sonnen, but I know the General Manager Andy.

[stephenkirsh]

No worries. As long as things get fixed and nothing is broken I'll be happy.

[Silber92]

Called last Thursday to schedule the appointment, SA said 'let's do a week out that will give me time to order the airbag and make sure we've got a loaner available.' Dropped it off at Machens BMW at 12:30 today, per my appointment. Left in a clunky 328Xi sedan.

Just got a call from another SA who left me a message at 5:25 stating 'yes, we confirmed your car is affected by the recall, you can come get it and we'll let you know when the airbag is in stock. Oh and we're only here until 5:30 today, so I guess you can come tomorrow morning first thing and bring the loaner back.'

Really? I know, first world problems and all that, but really?

[danewilson77]

Yeah...that's shitty.

No flame suit required!

[Jon D]

So I call the dealer on the recall, they said come in and we'll make sure car qualifies, order part then schedule service so you are in and out in less than an hour. So buzz over on lunch hour, they get my info order part [back ordered thru BMW]. Go back to work.

About 2 hours later get a call from sales :confused saying ... saw you brought your old car in.. isn't it time for a new one.. :dunno let me arrange a test drive to show how much better new ones are. Either a 435 or a M4..:drevil well may do the test when car in for service .. but they were very efficient at trying to move new ones. Lets see how good they are at the service side as car has not seen a dealer since off CPO.

[ELCID86]

^ nice try guys. I would have never gone in but given them the vin over the phone. Though the test drive would be nice! M4 loaner?!


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[Jon D]

^ nice try guys. I would have never gone in but given them the vin over the phone. Though the test drive would be nice! M4 loaner?!


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Dealer is 2 blocks from where I pick up my business mail, but I like the M4 loaner idea.


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[BavarianZHP]

Haha. Interesting. I asked for a loaner on the spot when I checked-in but they said I should've done it a week in advance (duh, of course I'm stupid). Oh well. I had a friend picking me up anyways but I wanted to see if I could get to drive one of those newer BMW's. They actually didn't ask me to upgrade! Just said "Wow, nice interior.... Is this a ZSP?". I laughed and said, "ZHP".

[BimmerWill]

Dang... I'm going to call my local srealership Monday and try and get the ball rolling. This should be interesting.

[328ioc]

My dealer told me the whole job would take 1-2 hours.......no loaner for me.

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[RITmusic2k]

Called over the weekend to schedule my appointment. BMW of Portland had done a few but ran out of inventory; I'm expecting to receive a call from their parts purchaser today to schedule my appointment. Fingers crossed!

[SoCalZman]

Wow. Guess I better call and make the appointment.

http://m.autoblog.com/2014/10/20/nhtsa-urgent-takata-airbag-recall-warning-issued/

[danewilson77]

I'll be removing my trim before I pull into the dealer.

No flame suit required!

[Jon D]

My dealer told me the whole job would take 1-2 hours.......no loaner for me.

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Dealer has done a number already said its a "45 minute job".


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[johnrando]

I'll be removing my trim before I pull into the dealer.

No flame suit required!
Me too

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[derbo]

I'll be removing my trim before I pull into the dealer.

No flame suit required!

My trim seems to have fitting itself alot better than before..LOL

[dlucas589]

Called International Autos BMW in Milwaukee to set my appt. Said they needed to order parts so I'll be in next Monday. Asked about a loaner- "no loaners are included with this particular recall" uh wut? Anyway he said it won't take more than an hour or 2 so I will just hang out while it's being done


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[cakM3]

BMW: 573,935 total number of potentially affected vehicles

2000 – 2005 3 Series Sedan
2000 – 2006 3 Series Coupe
2000 – 2005 3 Series Sports Wagon
2000 – 2006 3 Series Convertible
2001 – 2006 M3 Coupe
2001 – 2006 M3 Convertible


- Toyota: 778,177 total number of potentially affected vehicles
- Honda: 2,803,214 total number of potentially affected vehicles
- Nissan: 437,712 total number of potentially affected vehicles
- Mazda: 18,050 total number of potentially affected vehicles
- General Motors: 133,221 total number potentially affected vehicles

Looks like Honda took a very big hit with this airbag recall......

[az3579]

Called International Autos BMW in Milwaukee to set my appt. Said they needed to order parts so I'll be in next Monday. Asked about a loaner- "no loaners are included with this particular recall" uh wut? Anyway he said it won't take more than an hour or 2 so I will just hang out while it's being done


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I'm fairly certain that the decision to provide or not provide loaners is at the discretion of the dealer. I don't believe they are required to provide one.

[danewilson77]

Mine is scheduled for Nov 24th. Lord help me.

[RITmusic2k]

Didn't get my call yesterday, but didn't have time to deal with it as work has been busy. Gonna try to call them back tomorrow and get something on the books.

[BimmerWill]

Scheduled for Next Friday at 330. Luckily they have some in stock. Debating on removing my trim before hand as well..

[cakM3]

Both of my cars are taken care of....now off to the next issue ;)

[ELCID86]

Colin got his done today. He asked them not to wash it and they complied. Tech said to put a watch on the FCABs.


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[oldzilla]

Scheduled this Friday....no loaner but get the shuttle service back home. Yeah!

[Romulan]

Took my vehicle to BMW mountain view for service recall. They had it in and out the same day. They even tightened my hand brake for free (was at 10 clicks, factory spec 5-7). Highly recommend them if you are in the bay area

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[danewilson77]

Took my vehicle to BMW mountain view for service recall. They had it in and out the same day. They even tightened my hand brake for free (was at 10 clicks, factory spec 5-7). Highly recommend them if you are in the bay area

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[az3579]

Going in tomorrow. Can't wait to see what my loaner will be. :rolleyes


Whatever it may be, it'll be far better than having to take a few hours off work. :thumbsup

[az3579]

The just notified me, 2 hours before I was scheduled to go to the dealer, that they ran out of airbags and they are on backorder as of today. :facepalm

[danewilson77]

:facepalm

No flame suit required!

[danewilson77]

So disrespectful of people's plans.

No flame suit required!

[Johnmadd]

So disrespectful of people's plans.

No flame suit required!

Agree 100.

[Tnhl1989]

Just had my airbag done. Yeah it seems like a lot of over booking and not realizing how many airbags and loaners people have.

[az3579]

:facepalm

No flame suit required!


So disrespectful of people's plans.

No flame suit required!

I don't blame them. I just read that it's a massive backorder, and could potentially not get it this year. I sure hope that's not true; I don't know if the article had any credibility.

[stephenkirsh]

I don't blame them. I just read that it's a massive backorder, and could potentially not get it this year. I sure hope that's not true; I don't know if the article had any credibility.

Makes sense. Each week I read they expand the selection of vehicles in it :(

[cakM3]

Makes sense. Each week I read they expand the selection of vehicles in it :(

As this list continue to grow....so will the wait time unfortunately...

[johnrando]

At least they didn't wait until you got there to tell you, that would have been really bad.

[az3579]

I called the dealer today. They do not have an official estimate of when the airbags will be received, but they did say they're hoping to get them for November. They also said that once they arrive, the airbags will be allocated based on the order of customer appointments. So, since they ran out supposedly on the day I was due for service, I believe I'll be in the next batch, hopefully by November.

[kayger12]

I've been on the list for about 1 month. I just called to check on the status and was told they're expecting a bunch to arrive in the next 1.5-2 weeks.

I'll believe it when I see it

[slater]

i need to get this done. have there been any 'incidents' with BMWs yet?

peter

[kayger12]

i need to get this done. have there been any 'incidents' with BMWs yet?

peter

Not yet. I haven't let anyone in the front passenger seat, though. Not worth the risk, imo

[oldzilla]

Got mine done today, no issues took them two hours.

[slater]

Not yet. I haven't let anyone in the front passenger seat, though. Not worth the risk, imo

it's only the passenger airbag? sorry, i am not up on this.

could we just disconnect it until the dealer is able to replace it?

peter

[ELCID86]

I think you'd get a dash light and they'd probably charge you to reset it! :dunno


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Just saw this on e46f. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1056175

[danewilson77]

it's only the passenger airbag? sorry, i am not up on this.

could we just disconnect it until the dealer is able to replace it?

peter
Yes.

No flame suit required!

[slater]

thanks shawn + dane - i need to do something as my nearest dealer is 1.75hrs away and scheduling will be difficult, at best. bypassing is my only choice for the time being.

peter

[prowlerflyer]

Called today to schedule it, first available date...stand by....a month from now. Crap.

[kayger12]

it's only the passenger airbag? sorry, i am not up on this.

could we just disconnect it until the dealer is able to replace it?

peter

Afaik- no way to do it without triggering a light.

[danewilson77]

Afaik- no way to do it without triggering a light.
Yep...but I'm assuming the dealer would reset the light after the recall is performed.

"No flamesuit required"

[kayger12]

Yep...but I'm assuming the dealer would reset the light after the recall is performed.

"No flamesuit required"

Sure- for $100... :)

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[danewilson77]

Sure- for $100... :)

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Perhaps it might make them none too happy to find out you unplugged it. :)

"No flamesuit required"

[Tnhl1989]

More information released.

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[SoCalZman]

More information released.

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Ok so it says right at the beginning that they are still investigating the risk to the drivers side airbag, which is good IMO. I am hoping they conclude that they should change out our drivers side bag as well. At this point I just dont want the risk.

and wow...I think this means we can no longer say FOR CERTAIN that no one has been injured from this in an E46: "BMW has noted a very low rate of incidents with a limited number of front passenger injuries which might be related to the issues involving the 2013 and 2014 recalls."

[cakM3]

Ok so it says right at the beginning that they are still investigating the risk to the drivers side airbag, which is good IMO. I am hoping they conclude that they should change out our drivers side bag as well. At this point I just dont want the risk....

That's interesting to know....

[az3579]

More information released.

16207

The sheet amount of questions in that document that were "asked" repeatedly, with slightly different wording, blows my mind.

[Tnhl1989]

This sheet is provided for me so that I can answer your questions when you come visit me BP :)

[dlucas589]

Airbag recall completed today. No complaints here


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[az3579]

This sheet is provided for me so that I can answer your questions when you come visit me BP :)

But I won't have any questions for you about the airbag recall... I know everything I need to know already. lol

[cakM3]

I find it interesting that BMW is now looking into the front driver's side airbag as well.....

[az3579]

I find it interesting that BMW is now looking into the front driver's side airbag as well.....

Where'd you get this information??


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[slater]

Ok so it says right at the beginning that they are still investigating the risk to the drivers side airbag, which is good IMO. I am hoping they conclude that they should change out our drivers side bag as well. At this point I just dont want the risk.

and wow...I think this means we can no longer say FOR CERTAIN that no one has been injured from this in an E46: "BMW has noted a very low rate of incidents with a limited number of front passenger injuries which might be related to the issues involving the 2013 and 2014 recalls."

no, it states:

"Q13. How many vehicles have experienced a ruptured inflator?

BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of the potentially affected vehicles."


it is definitely difficult to read.

i am scheduled to have mine taken care of next tuesday - the dealer actually has stock!

peter

[cakM3]

Where'd you get this information??


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"2014 Action
The recent action in 2014 is a “Special Technical Campaign” (“14V-348”) involving Model Year 2004 – 2006 BMW 3 Series, including M3 models produced between January 2004 and August 2006 and pertains to the driver front air bag system. This is a limited regional action, being conducted in cooperation with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Takata, in Florida, Hawaii and Puerto Rico only. It is being conducted in order to collect parts in these specific locations with high absolute humidity in vehicles which have experienced long-term exposure to this environmental condition. BMW and Takata have not yet determined if a safety risk exists, hence this limited regional parts collection campaign will allow for further analysis. There have been no reports of air bag system housing rupture on a BMW 3 Series."

Taken from the pdf document Tony linked....post #309

[az3579]

I find it interesting that BMW is now looking into the front driver's side airbag as well.....


"2014 Action
The recent action in 2014 is a “Special Technical Campaign” (“14V-348”) involving Model Year 2004 – 2006 BMW 3 Series, including M3 models produced between January 2004 and August 2006 and pertains to the driver front air bag system. This is a limited regional action, being conducted in cooperation with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Takata, in Florida, Hawaii and Puerto Rico only. It is being conducted in order to collect parts in these specific locations with high absolute humidity in vehicles which have experienced long-term exposure to this environmental condition. BMW and Takata have not yet determined if a safety risk exists, hence this limited regional parts collection campaign will allow for further analysis. There have been no reports of air bag system housing rupture on a BMW 3 Series."

Taken from the pdf document Tony linked....post #309

The first post I quoted I actually misinterpreted. I thought you meant the driver's SIDE airbag, not the DRIVER'S SIDE. Nevermind. I knew about the driver's airbag action.

[johnrando]

Made an appt online last week to get this done at my local dealer. Suspiciously quiet other than an email appt reminder today (for tomorrow's appt). So, I called them to make sure these were in stock. (In the comments section, I said "please verify this are in stock"). Sure enough, they are out, and won't know stock status until next week. She said "you have an appointment? I thought we cancelled all of them". I told her I made it online, and she said, "oh". Figured that could be an issue, glad I called.

[stephenkirsh]

For the number of recalls going on in the auto world, it seems so many places are unsure how to handle them.

[kayger12]

no, it states:

"Q13. How many vehicles have experienced a ruptured inflator?

BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of the potentially affected vehicles."


it is definitely difficult to read.

i am scheduled to have mine taken care of next tuesday - the dealer actually has stock!

peter

Legal-speak. They have a low rate of injuries that might be attributable to ruptured inflators even though they have no confirmed incidents of ruptured inflators.

"BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of the potentially affected vehicles.
However, based upon the size of the vehicle population, BMW has noted a very low
rate of incidents with a limited number of front passenger injuries which might be
related to the issues involving the 2013 and 2014 recalls."

[Daddyoh]

I had my ZHP at the dealer for a public service clinic on Oct. 4, and my mechanic switched mine out automatically. When he was reviewing what he had found he told me he took care of the recall. I said, "huh, I didn't think there was stock for the replacement yet!" He said, "yeah, but we have them. It takes about 15 minutes to do the job..."
Sun Motors, Mechanicsburg. They really are great folks there! :applause

[johnrando]

Whoa, that's awesome.

[az3579]

My dealer just called me; they said they now have airbags back in stock. Made my appointment for Tuesday. They said they reserve the airbags for people in order of appointment, so it's actually getting replaced this time even if they "run out". They're all accounted for!

[slater]

My dealer just called me; they said they now have airbags back in stock. Made my appointment for Tuesday. They said they reserve the airbags for people in order of appointment, so it's actually getting replaced this time even if they "run out". They're all accounted for!

nice, BP... getting mine done on tuesday as well!

peter

[Stewbie]

nice, BP... getting mine done on tuesday as well!

peter
Where's your nearest BMW dealer, Toronto or Ottawa?

[TheFinanceGuy]

Ugh.... called both NE dealers near me, both have long waiting lists and no idea when parts will be available.

[slater]

got mine done today, and the rear taillight recall. here's my saga:

- arrive at 10:00am for a 10:15am appt, they got the car in right away and offered me a wonderful leather chair, coffee, etc. (i removed the dash trim piece before going inside :) )
- airbag recall is taken care of by 10:45, then they proceeded to spend 10:45am until 1:30pm (!!!) working on the taillight recall. turns out, i had a rear brake light bulb out, which was not the bulb, light assembly or wiring - it was actually a faulty LCM. they confirmed this by swapping in my service manager's LCM from his 2005 E46 sedan. soooo... the service manager and shop foreman were able to somehow order me a new LCM for free under the taillight recall. something to the effect of, "the faulty wiring/connector COULD have damaged the LCM." they also felt bad that i had to wait so long for something that is obviously a quick job. and i have to find time to go back there (it's 2hrs from my house), but in the end, i get a new, free LCM that will very likely be firmware 4.0+, which means i can get the triple-blink which i am ecstatic about.

i got to check out a new alpine white on brown leather 328d Touring, which i really liked. that and the M235i x-drive that they had with the $14K M Performance Package option - it was sweet. but it had pirellis on it? surprised to see that, and not PSS like on all other M-pkg cars.

this was Endras BMW in ajax, ontario. nice folks.

peter

[slater]

Where's your nearest BMW dealer, Toronto or Ottawa?

Endras BMW (formerly BMW Durham), in ajax. about 2hrs west of my house. although, i drove by a sign on 33 the other day in kingston that said 'future home of kingston BMW - coming summer 2015'. awesome!

peter

[E_Rak]

Ugh.... called both NE dealers near me, both have long waiting lists and no idea when parts will be available.

I can only assume Peabody was one of them?? I'll probably have to wait until winter break to even think about this :/

[az3579]

Looks like you had an interesting day, Peter. Massive win on the new LCM!!!

I brought my car in today as well and people immediately starting complimenting me on the BBS wheels. :)

The guy who gave me the loaner obviously knew I was an enthusiast and didn't treat me like an idiot when asked if I knew how to set up all the phone stuff in the loaner. I was very pleased with that as well.

I decided to have them do an oil change as well while it's there. BMW of Ridgefield has definitely earned my business. :thumbsup


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[slater]

ridgefield, huh? i lived there from age 0-4, and my mom grew up there. small world! i was born in danbury.

peter

[ELCID86]

Nice if you end up with sw 4.0+!


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[TheFinanceGuy]

I can only assume Peabody was one of them?? I'll probably have to wait until winter break to even think about this :/

Yeah. I'm on the wait list for BMW of sudbury at the moment. They are closer to my house.
Should probably just out my name in both places and see who calls first.

[az3579]

ridgefield, huh? i lived there from age 0-4, and my mom grew up there. small world! i was born in danbury.

peter

I actually work in Danbury, which is why I brought my car to BMW of Ridgefield instead of BMW of Bridgeport which is literally down the street from where I live... in Bridgeport. lol

[Tnhl1989]

Ridgefield is a center of excellence and they are my manager's brothers store. :)

[derbo]

Looks like you had an interesting day, Peter. Massive win on the new LCM!!!

I brought my car in today as well and people immediately starting complimenting me on the BBS wheels. :)

The guy who gave me the loaner obviously knew I was an enthusiast and didn't treat me like an idiot when asked if I knew how to set up all the phone stuff in the loaner. I was very pleased with that as well.

I decided to have them do an oil change as well while it's there. BMW of Ridgefield has definitely earned my business. :thumbsup


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That is awesome. When I did mine, my recaro was in it. The Tech was drooling all over the car. LOL when he put it on the lift do so a courtesy inspection, he noticed the M3 LSD. :rofl

[az3579]

That is awesome. When I did mine, my recaro was in it. The Tech was drooling all over the car. LOL when he put it on the lift do so a courtesy inspection, he noticed the M3 LSD. :rofl

It's funny you mention the inspection. I got sent the PDF via email on their findings and the only thing they could find wrong were the tires being pretty worn (my summers). They quoted me 2 grand to replace them and get an alignment. lol

They also checked off "washer fluid level" as being good. I find that interesting because my pump leaks fluid so I purposefully keep it empty!

[danewilson77]

It's funny you mention the inspection. I got sent the PDF via email on their findings and the only thing they could find wrong were the tires being pretty worn (my summers). They quoted me 2 grand to replace them and get an alignment. lol

They also checked off "washer fluid level" as being good. I find that interesting because my pump leaks fluid so I purposefully keep it empty!

I would have asked them on the spot about the washer fluid, just to make them feel like idiots.

[TheFinanceGuy]

It's funny you mention the inspection. I got sent the PDF via email on their findings and the only thing they could find wrong were the tires being pretty worn (my summers). They quoted me 2 grand to replace them and get an alignment. lol

They also checked off "washer fluid level" as being good. I find that interesting because my pump leaks fluid so I purposefully keep it empty!

I had an E36 that leaked wash fluid- at one point I removed the tank to reseal it and such- I had brought the car to the shop, and my indy said "I'm not sure what happened, but your washer fluid tank is, well, missing"
I LOL'ed so hard, he couldn't figure out why. That was the beginning of a good relationship with him.

[UdubBadger]

Called 2 dealerships about this crap like a month ago to schedule - neither has called me back.

[SoCalZman]

Called BMW SF today since they sent me a coupon for $25 off a 4 wheel alignment. I figured since I am moving and driving the car to SoCal next weekend I should have the car checked out. She said she would order the parts for the airbag recall, and seemed unconcerned when I shared stories about parts being on back order. So, I have an appointment next Tuesday for an alignment, tire rotoation, a good once over by the tech, and (HOPEFULLY) the airbag recall.

[az3579]

I would have asked them on the spot about the washer fluid, just to make them feel like idiots.

I'm going to when I pick the car up. I have a 328xi loaner that I'm going to return after work today.
The intention won't be to make them feel like idiots though, I'm just going to bring it up jokingly. They haven't done anything to deserve that (who knows, maybe they filled it up for me). I'm extremely happy with the service I've gotten. :)

[ELCID86]

... find that interesting because my pump leaks fluid so I purposefully keep it empty!

Easy fix, right?


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[derbo]

Called BMW SF today since they sent me a coupon for $25 off a 4 wheel alignment. I figured since I am moving and driving the car to SoCal next weekend I should have the car checked out. She said she would order the parts for the airbag recall, and seemed unconcerned when I shared stories about parts being on back order. So, I have an appointment next Tuesday for an alignment, tire rotoation, a good once over by the tech, and (HOPEFULLY) the airbag recall.

Who is your service advisor?

[SoCalZman]

Who is your service advisor?

I will probably spell her name wrong but it's Tungvy Tran

[derbo]

I will probably spell her name wrong but it's Tungvy Tran

Close enough. It's Toungvi. She is good advisor.

[stephenkirsh]

Dropped my car off today. Jealous of some of your stories. The woman checking my car in seemed to hate her job. She leaned hard on my quarter panel when checking the VIN, too. Sigh.


I got a loaner, though. Check it out!
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[ELCID86]

:rofl


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[danewilson77]

Ugh

"No flamesuit required"

[stephenkirsh]

Yup. Lol

[BADCLOWN]

bitchin' loaner car.


all i have to say is this: i PRAY i never get in an accident where airbag deployment becomes a reality. i have a carnal fear of a bag exploding in my face at 200mph

[SoCalZman]

all i have to say is this: i PRAY i never get in an accident where airbag deployment becomes a reality. i have a carnal fear of a bag exploding in my face at 200mph

It happened to me as a teenager. I survived, but it hurt. Really hurt. I am shorter than the average person so the bag (which has the consistency of sand paper, btw) hit me as much as I hit it. No deep wounds, but the bottom half of my face was swollen and looked like a tiger had scratched it. Some burns on my arms too.

[danewilson77]

Justin Hornung got nailed by one this year in his ZHP.

"No flamesuit required"

[az3579]

Easy fix, right?


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Sure... but got other things on my plate. I won't need the wipers till snow starts to fall anyway, so I guess I better get a moveon. :)


Recall was done today and ... disapointed that my airbag cover is STILL sticking up in the upper land hand corner. Charlie told me that should be something they can fix when they reinstall the cover, but I get the feeling that cover may need replacing... who knows.

[SoCalZman]

Sure... but got other things on my plate. I won't need the wipers till snow starts to fall anyway, so I guess I better get a moveon. :)


Recall was done today and ... disapointed that my airbag cover is STILL sticking up in the upper land hand corner. Charlie told me that should be something they can fix when they reinstall the cover, but I get the feeling that cover may need replacing... who knows.

How much is a new cover? Has to be less than a few hundred right?

[az3579]

How much is a new cover? Has to be less than a few hundred right?

I'm not willing to pay more than $20 for that stupid thing. That's how much I care about it. :)

Got more important things on my radar, like a new steering wheel and center consoles, not to mention a couple of maintenance related items. :thumbsup

[stephenkirsh]

Got my recalls done. Everything looks good.

According to the paperwork, I have that rare 330i with the 2.5L engine. I'm surprised their system lets that through.

[danewilson77]

Lol.....disappointing

"No flamesuit required"

[3ZHP]

I called my dealer today and the parts are still another two weeks out. That's getting close to the holidays and with the variation in weather, I may put this off for a few months.


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[Johnmadd]

Justin Hornung got nailed by one this year in his ZHP.

"No flamesuit required"

I got hit and airbag to the face before and wasnt that bad 23/11/99, rip to that mint (then) 92 celiac wide body full leather and cellular phone antenna :shifty

[ELCID86]

I'm not willing to pay more than $20 for that stupid thing. That's how much I care about it.

Sounds like your getting less OCD in your old age! Good :-)


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[SoCalZman]

I called my dealer today and the parts are still another two weeks out. That's getting close to the holidays and with the variation in weather, I may put this off for a few months.


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Yeah I am not exactly convinced that the parts will be ready for my car next Tuesday. Guess we will see. BTW love the color of your car.

[az3579]

Ok I'm a little bit confused.


I thought the airbag was getting replaced... is this not true?

I just looked at the paperwork I was given on what was replaced and the following is listed:

(Qty) Part# - Decription

(1) 72129330942 - Air Bag Module for Passenger
(1) 51458146760 - Fastening Elements
(2) 07119905374 - Self Locking Collar

I looked up the Air Bag Module and it's like a $80 part... even though there are no pictures, I know that's not an airbag.

WTH??

[stephenkirsh]

16364

Mine says the same.

[Tnhl1989]

Ok I'm a little bit confused.


I thought the airbag was getting replaced... is this not true?

I just looked at the paperwork I was given on what was replaced and the following is listed:

(Qty) Part# - Decription

(1) 72129330942 - Air Bag Module for Passenger
(1) 51458146760 - Fastening Elements
(2) 07119905374 - Self Locking Collar

I looked up the Air Bag Module and it's like a $80 part... even though there are no pictures, I know that's not an airbag.

WTH??

Stop complaining.....you got some OCD :P

16368

With a total of 1391 airbags in the entire nation left at 11/5/14 11:55pm

[derbo]

You work for the dealer now tony? I know when I see Dealerspeed. lol

[cakM3]

You work for the dealer now tony? I know when I see Dealerspeed. lol

Yes Derek....Tony works for a dealer :)

[SoCalZman]

Stop complaining.....you got some OCD :P

16368

With a total of 1391 airbags in the entire nation left at 11/5/14 11:55pm

Well that's great news. I Wonder why I am seeing people say on other forums that their dealers are saying it will be weeks or months before they have the parts in stock

[az3579]

Stop complaining.....you got some OCD :P



Huh?
I was under the impression the air bag was getting replaced, and have seen this in numerous places that people say it's the airbag getting replaced. Is it that people think it's the bag that's getting replaced? I don't understand your comment.

Is this "module" actually the inflator? I guess I was under the impression of the airbag being replaced because I don't know how the system works. I thought maybe the inflator was permanent attached to the airbag or something.


Well that's great news. I Wonder why I am seeing people say on other forums that their dealers are saying it will be weeks or months before they have the parts in stock

Each dealer has its allocation. If they run out, it could be a while before they get new stock. Those replenish dates aren't the same for every dealer.

[Tnhl1989]

Derek I thought you knew I been working for one for 1.5 Years and I just started my client advisor position. :) I'll ship you a new car

[derbo]

Derek I thought you knew I been working for one for 1.5 Years and I just started my client advisor position. :) I'll ship you a new car

Forgot. :) Too far.

[slater]

Huh?
I was under the impression the air bag was getting replaced, and have seen this in numerous places that people say it's the airbag getting replaced. Is it that people think it's the bag that's getting replaced? I don't understand your comment.

Is this "module" actually the inflator? I guess I was under the impression of the airbag being replaced because I don't know how the system works. I thought maybe the inflator was permanent attached to the airbag or something.

i think it's just the inflator that is being replace, yeah.

peter

[derbo]

Huh?
I was under the impression the air bag was getting replaced, and have seen this in numerous places that people say it's the airbag getting replaced. Is it that people think it's the bag that's getting replaced? I don't understand your comment.

Is this "module" actually the inflator? I guess I was under the impression of the airbag being replaced because I don't know how the system works. I thought maybe the inflator was permanent attached to the airbag or something.


Yes the inflator is the module.

http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Owners/NHTSA-statement-on-takata-air-bags


On June 12, 2014, BMW initially became aware of this matter via NHTSA. NHTSA advised BMW that Takata Holdings Inc. ("Takata") had informed NHTSA of a potential problem with certain configurations of its frontal air bag system (specifically the air bag system inflator module) that it produced for several vehicle manufacturers, including BMW. Takata informed NHTSA that certain inflators, manufactured at Takata's plant(s) between January 1, 2004 and July 1, 2007 for driver-side inflators and between June 1, 2000 and July 31, 2004 for passenger-side inflators, may potentially rupture during an air bag deployment after long-term exposure to high absolute humidity environments, possibly causing an injury. At that time, Takata had not identified a safety defect or made a safety decision.

[SoCalZman]

for what its worth, I googled the part number you guys have in the picture for the module and the images that come up are the whole airbag, like as one big unit.

[az3579]

for what its worth, I googled the part number you guys have in the picture for the module and the images that come up are the whole airbag, like as one big unit.

The picture you found must be incorrect. A passenger airbag most certainly not only $80-90.
That part number costs about that much.

That's why I was originally confused. Oh well. If this is the fix then this is the fix, not gonna argue about that! As long as my car is safe to drive, I'm not complaining.

[LivesNearCostco]

I am not familiar with the Takata inflator and have never removed my passenger airbag, only the door side bags. However I helped blow up two non-BMW airbags for a teen car control clinic earlier this year, and it looked like it would be difficult to remove and replace just the inflator without messing up the connection from the inflator to the bag itself. So I assume they replace the whole airbag. But what do I know--I just blow them up!

[cakM3]

---I just blow them up!

Nice!!! :ronald

[SoCalZman]

Just dropped my car off at the dealer. They officially ran out of airbags yesterday and say they are on national back order with no ETA. I am glad I am also having an alignment and tire rotation done or this might have been a bit upsetting. I will have to get the airbag replaced in Irvine eventually.

[Jon D]

Dealer did mine this morning in less than hour total in and out including car wash. Advisor also told me looks like drivers side will get a recall as well.

[danewilson77]

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/11/19/federal-highway-safety-agency-demands-recall-cars-with-takata-air-bags/?intcmp=latestnews

"No flamesuit required"

[ELCID86]

Wow. I guess we'll all be going back to the dealer. And I bet they wish they could have done them both at the same time.


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[cakM3]

... Advisor also told me looks like drivers side will get a recall as well.

It's just a matter of time....I know BMW was already looking into this....

[SoCalZman]

If thats the case I will just wait until they recall both AND have them in stock, then take my car in for both.

[az3579]

If thats the case I will just wait until they recall both AND have them in stock, then take my car in for both.

You're gonna be waiting for a loooooooooong time. lol


Personally I look forward to having a loaner again. I never get to drive a new BMW any other time, and quite enjoyed the F30 I had last time.

[sna77]

have my appointment for next Friday...

[quikryptonite]

A service adviser is supposed to call me this week. I wonder if they have the parts in stock.

[danewilson77]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0J41BX20141120?irpc=932

"No flamesuit required"

[az3579]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0J41BX20141120?irpc=932

"No flamesuit required"

Someone's gonna get their ass handed to them.

[fredo]

So, do we want quality or quantity ? Ask the workers and the managers, different answers for sure.

[danewilson77]

Ha. Got a brother down here with me.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/f9ebb80b9e123e5ee24cc7d6d9fd476a.jpg

"No flamesuit required"

[danewilson77]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/d431a21028839f6b91f635df023b0654.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/0fb9afb7b09334ec1fe8dd78a9a61919.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/35b5fd89b5a7d6cac6a4e9de37f86ba6.jpg

"No flamesuit required"

[fredo]

Man, that's a clean shop. The last time I went to the dealer for service was in March 2006. Last week I found my e90 has a recall open so I will be going back at some point.

[danewilson77]

The verdict:

-Oil pan gasket leak. My oil level is solid. Must be a pretty small leak. Maybe take car of this next year.
-VCG leak (surprising). VCG was changed by me (vanos). Maybe I'll check torque. Again...oil level is solid.
-Brake fluid flush recommended...lol.
-Fuel Injector cleaner....lol.

Funny, because car currently has SES light for CAT inefficiency. Didn't say anything about that. I thought for sure they'd recommend getting new CATS installed.

"No flamesuit required"

[SoCalZman]

What kind of VCG did you use? I have read on another forum that BMW switched to using "Vitron" to make the newer VCG so they are much better now and better than anything aftermarket has out.

I dread getting a pan gasket leak after reading what it takes to fix it.

[az3579]

The verdict:

-Oil pan gasket leak. My oil level is solid. Must be a pretty small leak. Maybe take car of this next year.
-VCG leak (surprising). VCG was changed by me (vanos). Maybe I'll check torque. Again...oil level is solid.
-Brake fluid flush recommended...lol.
-Fuel Injector cleaner....lol.

Funny, because car currently has SES light for CAT inefficiency. Didn't say anything about that. I thought for sure they'd recommend getting new CATS installed.

"No flamesuit required"

At least they didn't quote you $2000 for four tires. :rofl

[ELCID86]

What kind of VCG did you use? I have read on another forum that BMW switched to using "Vitron" to make the newer VCG so they are much better now and better than anything aftermarket has out.

I dread getting a pan gasket leak after reading what it takes to fix it.
I've also read ppl are having issues with the Victor Reinz VCGs.

[danewilson77]

I've also read ppl are having issues with the Victor Reinz VCGs.
Mmmm....how many people and after what mileage?

"No flamesuit required"

[az3579]

Mmmm....how many people and after what mileage?

"No flamesuit required"

That slightly used Valve Cover Gasket that we installed when I was at your place on 03/05/2011; is that Victor Reinz? That was installed at 90k miles. I have 209k now (just about) and haven't had any issues with it since then.

[SoCalZman]

I've also read ppl are having issues with the Victor Reinz VCGs.

Right, that too. My mechanic insisted on putting that one on my car when he changed mine and I didnt want to argue with him. He promised me hes been using these for years with "no issues," whatever that means. I was just thinking to myself it means that I will have to have it changed again in a year or two instead of longer with the new formula BMW ones.

[danewilson77]

That slightly used Valve Cover Gasket that we installed when I was at your place on 03/05/2011; is that Victor Reinz? That was installed at 90k miles. I have 209k now (just about) and haven't had any issues with it since then.

Lol....yes....Victor Reinz

The friendliest forum on the planet.

[ELCID86]

Mmmm....how many people and after what mileage?

"No flamesuit required"


Posts 155-160 here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=930168&page=8

I recall seeing more recently too.

[prowlerflyer]

ZHP in for the recall today. Dealer gave me a loaner to go kill time. 2014 335ix Sport. This thing is loaded, $56k! Good power and the sport mode is nice, but man it feels BIG, and surprisingly nose heavy. Steering isn't as bad as I had heard, but is pretty numb. Only 1200 miles on it.

[prowlerflyer]

Sticker

[jiggz]

56K - that is nuts for that car!

Did you mean 328xi?

Edit - I see you just posted the window sticker...335xi, that price makes a bit more sense now. Heated front seats still an option...sheesh.

[stephenkirsh]

ZHP in for the recall today. Dealer gave me a loaner to go kill time. 2014 325ix Sport. This thing is loaded, $56k! Good power and the sport mode is nice, but man it feels BIG, and surprisingly nose heavy. Steering isn't as bad as I had heard, but is pretty numb. Only 1200 miles on it.

Might wanna fix that 325 typo ;)

I think the f30 is slightly bigger than an e39 in a few measurements. So... Yea they're huge. E30 guys probably think the e46 is a boat though.

[prowlerflyer]

Might wanna fix that 325 typo ;)

I think the f30 is slightly bigger than an e39 in a few measurements. So... Yea they're huge. E30 guys probably think the e46 is a boat though.
Thanks fixed, don't know why I did that.

True enough, us with our big fat E46s...

[prowlerflyer]

I am liking this heads up display thingy surprisingly.

[cakM3]

... E30 guys probably think the e46 is a boat though.

Yeah but I bet those E30 guys are shaking their heads looking at the size of the current 3-series...


I am liking this heads up display thingy surprisingly.

Steve, I can guess just why you're liking the heads up display thingy.......:p

[stephenkirsh]

Yea the 3 series is so big it didn't make Car and Drivers 10 best for the first time in yeaaaaars this year. Replaced by the m235!

[RITmusic2k]

Finally got on the waiting list at BMW Portland after a couple unsuccessful weekend attempts to book the service. She's also due for an oil change and there's some touch-up work needed on the underbody cladding and wiring harness on the driver's side of the bumper & wheel well... so they've got me booked for a loaner on December 13th for the service, and expect the recall to be performed in 1-2 months. Slowly but surely!

[jiggz]

Finally got on the waiting list at BMW Portland after a couple unsuccessful weekend attempts to book the service. She's also due for an oil change and there's some touch-up work needed on the underbody cladding and wiring harness on the driver's side of the bumper & wheel well... so they've got me booked for a loaner on December 13th for the service, and expect the recall to be performed in 1-2 months. Slowly but surely!

Sounds like my experience today in calling BMW Seattle. 30-45 days on backorder, but at least they have one ordered for me now (good thing I called...otherwise who knows).

[SoCalZman]

ugh: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/24/parts-shortage-airbag-inflator-replacement-takes-two-years/

And however long extra it takes for them to actually recall our drivers airbags and then get them replaced as well.

[stephenkirsh]

"If the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is successful in making the campaign nationwide, then that timeline could grow even longer."

Wow...

[BADCLOWN]

I just got added to the list today after a phone call to The BMW Store in Cinci. scheduled an appt to have my tail light recall done and she added me on to the ever so long air bag list. at least my name is on there now though

[az3579]

ugh: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/24/parts-shortage-airbag-inflator-replacement-takes-two-years/

And however long extra it takes for them to actually recall our drivers airbags and then get them replaced as well.

We definitely need to be more specific here, because they obviously aren't replacing airbags. My airbag was untouched; it's the inflator that got replaced according to my work order, or whatever the heck "module" is supposed to mean (a ~$80 part).

[ELCID86]

^ good point. Anyone have a picture of the part?


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[az3579]

I can't seem to find a picture of it anywhere.

Part # on my work order is: 72129330942

[danewilson77]

We definitely need to be more specific here, because they obviously aren't replacing airbags. My airbag was untouched; it's the inflator that got replaced according to my work order, or whatever the heck "module" is supposed to mean (a ~$80 part).
Mine doesn't say inflator.

"No flamesuit required"

[az3579]

Mine doesn't say inflator.

"No flamesuit required"

What does it say? Could you please post a pic of your work order? Does it say module; does the part number I posted match?
If we are getting varying parts, this could be a problem... if it's indeed an airbag that needs to get replaced, I'm marching over to the dealer and demanding I get an airbag.

[SoCalZman]

We definitely need to be more specific here, because they obviously aren't replacing airbags. My airbag was untouched; it's the inflator that got replaced according to my work order, or whatever the heck "module" is supposed to mean (a ~$80 part).

I am using the correct terminology. I thought we talked about this already. Its the whole airbag that is being replaced. Its one unit. BMW says they are replacing the airbags in their recall letter. A google search turns up the airbag module (square looking thing), a search of popular BMW parts sites call the part number you listed the airbag module, etc etc etc.

Heres another source: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/301233363294?item=301233363294&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

lets stay on the same page now so as not to confuse people here. BMW is replacing the actual airbag that has the inflator in it.

[cakM3]

... BMW is replacing the actual airbag that has the inflator in it.

^^
This!

[az3579]

I am using the correct terminology. I thought we talked about this already. Its the whole airbag that is being replaced. Its one unit. BMW says they are replacing the airbags in their recall letter. A google search turns up the airbag module (square looking thing), a search of popular BMW parts sites call the part number you listed the airbag module, etc etc etc.

Heres another source: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/301233363294?item=301233363294&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

lets stay on the same page now so as not to confuse people here. BMW is replacing the actual airbag that has the inflator in it.

So why is there no part number for the airbag listed on my work order? It makes it look like just this module is being replaced...
Can somebody please post up their work order? I need to settle this. If my dealer is skimping on the work, I need to make damned sure they fix it.

[cakM3]

:rofl

[SoCalZman]

So why is there no part number for the airbag listed on my work order? It makes it look like just this module is being replaced...
Can somebody please post up their work order? I need to settle this. If my dealer is skimping on the work, I need to make damned sure they fix it.

There is no part number for the airbag only because the part number is for the whole airbag assembly: 72129330942. You can't get just the bag.

Look closely at the picture of the airbag on the ebay link I pasted. it says in german " airbag modul" which I assume means "airbag module" in english. the airbag IS the module.

Maybe the part has a date stamp on it that the dealer can point out to you to prove they changed it. I think that is a reasonable request to make of them.

[az3579]

There is no part number for the airbag only because the part number is for the whole airbag assembly: 72129330942. You can't get just the bag.

Look closely at the picture of the airbag on the ebay link I pasted. it says in german " airbag modul" which I assume means "airbag module" in english. the airbag IS the module.

Maybe the part has a date stamp on it that the dealer can point out to you to prove they changed it. I think that is a reasonable request to make of them.

RealOEM can't find the part number, neither can GetBMWParts or any of the other BMW dealer part number search sites.
The places that do find it are places that aren't dealers but still sell Genuine BMW parts. ECSTuning is one example, and they list it for $88 as "AIR BAG MODULE FOR PASSENGER", which is exactly the same description in my work order.

If it was the entire thing, I seriously doubt it would cost $88.

[SoCalZman]

I see what you are saying, but I don't know how else to convince you. I am not sure why the part number is not coming up on dealer sites (that is strange). As for the price, maybe its so cheap because its not contained in a housing and bunch of plastic, etc like our drivers side airbag is.

At this point I suggest going back to the dealer and having a discussion with them/ the tech that did the work on your car. Its the only way to be sure at this point, right?

[az3579]

At this point I suggest going back to the dealer and having a discussion with them/ the tech that did the work on your car. Its the only way to be sure at this point, right?

Yes. This is exactly what is going to happen. I want to clear it up, and maybe even take out the bag myself and inspect it for "new"ness to see if it was indeed replaced. I will try to stop by the dealer tomorrow assuming it isn't going to be a clusterfudge getting home (supposed to snow quite a bit during the work day).

[danewilson77]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/25/e980bc26009c8b7fbf66effd274f6469.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/25/9630d869d3e97a6ffc8072b851f88380.jpg

"No flamesuit required"

[cakM3]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/25/e980bc26009c8b7fbf66effd274f6469.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/25/9630d869d3e97a6ffc8072b851f88380.jpg

"No flamesuit required"

Yep, both mine look like this as well :thumbsup

[az3579]

Thanks Dane.

I'm going to clear this up with the dealer and see what that part number is supposed to be and why there's an inconsistency with part numbers and pricing.

[danewilson77]

Thanks Dane.

I'm going to clear this up with the dealer and see what that part number is supposed to be and why there's an inconsistency with part numbers and pricing.
Clear what up BP? Have a beer, and get some sleep. I'm not sure what you're expecting them to do, beyond what's already been explained, here in this thread.

"No flamesuit required"

[az3579]

Clear what up BP? Have a beer, and get some sleep. I'm not sure what you're expecting them to do, beyond what's already been explained, here in this thread.

"No flamesuit required"

I'm glad you're taking it lightly. I, however, don't want to be driving around assuming that my passenger airbag got replaced and not just some stupid module that the part number references. What I'm expecting the dealer to do is show me that the part number is indeed an airbag and not just a ~$90 module. If the module is indeed part of the airbag, then the price should be significantly higher.

I'm sorry if I can't sleep at night not knowing whether my best friend or family member that rides in my passenger seat is going to survive an airbag event in my car.

Them clearing this up will explain the discrepancy between the dealer system that's not showing the part number in existence and all of the other sites that aren't dealers that show this part being a ~$90 part.

I can't rest until I know for a fact, with verifiable proof, that the part number is an airbag. I don't like discrepancies when it comes to safety equipment. I drive too much for me to be able to shrug it off; every minute I'm on the road, my chances of some idiot pulling out in front of me and smacking them is significantly higher than most of the people on this forum.

[danewilson77]

Alright BP. Let us know what they say.

"No flamesuit required"

[cakM3]

...I can't rest until I know for a fact, with verifiable proof, that the part number is an airbag.

BP, we all know you drive a lot and I understand your concern but you need to take it down a notch or two before you blow a gasket.... I'm at the dealer right now and will find out what this part (72-12-9-330-942 Air Bag Module) is. You can be assured, I will post my findings here shortly :thumbsup

Oh, and I'm not trying to make light of your concerns....they are legitimate concerns.

[slater]

I'm glad you're taking it lightly. I, however, don't want to be driving around assuming that my passenger airbag got replaced and not just some stupid module that the part number references. What I'm expecting the dealer to do is show me that the part number is indeed an airbag and not just a ~$90 module. If the module is indeed part of the airbag, then the price should be significantly higher.

I'm sorry if I can't sleep at night not knowing whether my best friend or family member that rides in my passenger seat is going to survive an airbag event in my car.

Them clearing this up will explain the discrepancy between the dealer system that's not showing the part number in existence and all of the other sites that aren't dealers that show this part being a ~$90 part.

I can't rest until I know for a fact, with verifiable proof, that the part number is an airbag. I don't like discrepancies when it comes to safety equipment. I drive too much for me to be able to shrug it off; every minute I'm on the road, my chances of some idiot pulling out in front of me and smacking them is significantly higher than most of the people on this forum.

i can understand your concern, BP - but i think you're going to have to trust the fact that BMW and/or the dealer is not trying to screw you over here. it doesn't matter what the part costs, i am sure whatever is being replaced is the part that needs to be replaced.



BP, we all know you drive a lot and I understand your concern but you need to take it down a notch or two before you blow a gasket.... I'm at the dealer right now and will find out what this part (72-12-9-330-942 Air Bag Module) is. You can be assured, I will post my findings here shortly :thumbsup

an OFHG or VCG, charlie? haha. good advice, as per usual!

peter

[cakM3]

16679
This is the SIB for the air bag recall
16680

For the front passenger's air bag recall, BMW assigned a unique part number unique to the air bag recall....probably so they can easily track just how many cars have been "fixed" per this recall. I verified with the parts department this morning that yes, the front passenger air bag, in it's entirety, is replaced.

[Tnhl1989]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/26/40017fe4abefc3634ad3d67c6ad16071.jpg

Here you go.


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[kayger12]

BMW of Atlantic City just got received an order of 40 airbags. I'm fortunately in the top 40 on the list and have a 7:30am appt on Monday. :roundel

[az3579]

16679
This is the SIB for the air bag recall
16680

For the front passenger's air bag recall, BMW assigned a unique part number unique to the air bag recall....probably so they can easily track just how many cars have been "fixed" per this recall. I verified with the parts department this morning that yes, the front passenger air bag, in it's entirety, is replaced.

Excellent. Thank you so much Charlie for looking into that! Saved me a trip to the dealer in this snowstorm...
It doesn't explain why the other sites have this part number for some kind of module, but at this point I no longer care. This info you stated came straight from the dealer and BMW of North America so that's good enough.

Now I can have passengers and not have to worry about whether they'll ruin my NB interior with their blood. :eeps

j/k

[danewilson77]

Looks good to me guys.....thanks to all for the confirmation.

[cakM3]

All in the name of BMW ownership.....glad I could help....

[Johnmadd]

Now I can have passengers and not have to worry about whether they'll ruin my NB interior with their blood. :eeps

j/k

:rofl

[kayger12]

All done. In and out in an hour. Car sailed through the inspection with zero issues.

I asked if I can get on the unofficial list for the upcoming driver side airbag recall :biggrin

[SoCalZman]

All done. In and out in an hour. Car sailed through the inspection with zero issues.

I asked if I can get on the unofficial list for the upcoming driver side airbag recall :biggrin

Hah! did they laugh nervously or roll their eyes?

[cakM3]

I asked if I can get on the unofficial list for the upcoming driver side airbag recall :biggrin

What did they say Keith? ;)

[kayger12]

Hah! did they laugh nervously or roll their eyes?


What did they say Keith? ;)

He said he heard it's coming... :(

[KevinC]

So, I got the prelim letter a few months ago, I ASSume I'll get another letter shortly confirming that the bags are in, and to call for an appointment. Does anyone have any idea if I can get the old DME reflash done for the 4k stutter problem done nowadays as a freebie - or has too much time elapsed? As long s the car is going to be laid up, I'd like to get that handled at the same time. My local stealership will almost certainly set me up with a loaner as I have a long history relationship with them from the Z4MC.

[cakM3]

He said he heard it's coming... :(

if that's the case then I'm wondering when the side impact airbags will come to question? ...might as well change everything out by then and say it's all part of the recall ;)

[kayger12]

if that's the case then I'm wondering when the side impact airbags will come to question? ...might as well change everything out by then and say it's all part of the recall ;)
Exactly!! :thumbsup

[SoCalZman]

So, I got the prelim letter a few months ago, I ASSume I'll get another letter shortly confirming that the bags are in, and to call for an appointment. Does anyone have any idea if I can get the old DME reflash done for the 4k stutter problem done nowadays as a freebie - or has too much time elapsed? As long s the car is going to be laid up, I'd like to get that handled at the same time. My local stealership will almost certainly set me up with a loaner as I have a long history relationship with them from the Z4MC.

Are you sure you want it? If you are talking about the 4k power dip, the "fix" disables the DISA valve.


if that's the case then I'm wondering when the side impact airbags will come to question? ...might as well change everything out by then and say it's all part of the recall ;)

Maybe they should. Those are the ones I see popping from time to time on big pot holes over on the other forum

[az3579]

So, I got the prelim letter a few months ago, I ASSume I'll get another letter shortly confirming that the bags are in, and to call for an appointment. Does anyone have any idea if I can get the old DME reflash done for the 4k stutter problem done nowadays as a freebie - or has too much time elapsed? As long s the car is going to be laid up, I'd like to get that handled at the same time. My local stealership will almost certainly set me up with a loaner as I have a long history relationship with them from the Z4MC.

Freebie? Nope. The DME has to get sent to New Jersey.

[KevinC]

Are you sure you want it? If you are talking about the 4k power dip, the "fix" disables the DISA valve.



Yes, I'm aware. I think I'd be willing to give up a bit of low-end torque to smooth out acceleration through 4k & up. I HATE getting on it and running into that damn stutter.. especially when my S54 is just starting to get into the fun zone at that point.

[az3579]

Yes, I'm aware. I think I'd be willing to give up a bit of low-end torque to smooth out acceleration through 4k & up. I HATE getting on it and running into that damn stutter.. especially when my S54 is just starting to get into the fun zone at that point.

Wait, what? S54???
We're talking about the M54...

[KevinC]

Wait, what? S54???
We're talking about the M54...

Was referring to my "other" lump.. see sig. :)

[az3579]

Was referring to my "other" lump.. see sig. :)

I've never heard of a S54 lump...

[SoCalZman]

not sure how much this will affect us since BMW was already replacing all our passenger airbags, but this appears to be snowballing.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/02/takata-complies-nhtsa-national-airbag-recall/

[az3579]

not sure how much this will affect us since BMW was already replacing all our passenger airbags, but this appears to be snowballing.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/02/takata-complies-nhtsa-national-airbag-recall/

What that means is that it'll be an even longer wait to get airbag replacements... better get in line now or you probably won't get a replacement within the next year is my guess.

[alexandre]

Glad I had mine done before this expanded. Hope it won't be as messy for the driver side airbags (aren't those the most important ??)

[UdubBadger]

What that means is that it'll be an even longer wait to get airbag replacements... better get in line now or you probably won't get a replacement within the next year is my guess.

Had dealership order mine last week, hope I made the cut

[cakM3]

Glad I had mine done before this expanded.

+1



Hope it won't be as messy for the driver side airbags (aren't those the most important ??)

I'm hoping the same thing Alexandre....

[KevinC]

Waitasec, do we need to contact the stealership? The letter I received said that there was currently no stock, but that I'd be notified again when stock was available, which to me meant sit tight until you hear from us again... ?

[stephenkirsh]

Yea we all got that same letter, but I think most of us called and made appointments and got it done already.

Great communication on their side, huh?

[cakM3]

Yea we all got that same letter, but I think most of us called and made appointments and got it done already.

^^^^
This


As soon as I found out I went to my dealer and discussed this with the Parts manager and my service advisor. Got both of my cars scheduled and air bags replaced...never waited for the second letter....

[stephenkirsh]

At this point I don't think there's going to be a second letter for a long time, if ever!

[kayger12]

Waitasec, do we need to contact the stealership? The letter I received said that there was currently no stock, but that I'd be notified again when stock was available, which to me meant sit tight until you hear from us again... ?

Most dealerships are running a waiting list. I would call and get on the list. Otherwise you might be waiting a year or two...

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[alexandre]

I haven't even gotten my letter yet :rofl

[slater]

I haven't even gotten my letter yet :rofl

alex, is your car registered with BMW Canada? i called their support line to find out about my letter (before i had it done), and they said my VIN was not 'connected' to me, so we had to get that bit sorted out first.

peter

[alexandre]

alex, is your car registered with BMW Canada? i called their support line to find out about my letter (before i had it done), and they said my VIN was not 'connected' to me, so we had to get that bit sorted out first.

peter

Yep, I verified with them once toyota and honda started recalling cars. Good thing I got it done by myself haha

[SoCalZman]

I went to Irvine BMW to ask about the recall. The parts guy said he would order the module and have a service guy call me when it comes in. He thinks it will be 2-3 weeks but at this point I have no expectations.

As an aside, this dealership has a way different feel than San Francisco BMW. There were a lot more M cars on display, the dealer had a much lighter, less technical atmosphere. Our of curiosity i priced out some things I remember from BMW SF and was blown away. It was much, much more expensive than BMW SF. From parts to their "value services" for the E46. And I thought SF was expensive....

[KevinC]

I emailed an SA at the local stealership last night and got a reply early this morning, saying he needed to order the part, and to provide the last 7 of my VIN. Sent him the info, got no further acknowledgement. I'll ping him again in a few days to make sure it's on order. Typical - I had lousy luck with 3 different SA's over the 4-year period of my free maintenance and minimal warranty issues with my Z4MC.

[johnrando]

I went to Irvine BMW to ask about the recall. The parts guy said he would order the module and have a service guy call me when it comes in. He thinks it will be 2-3 weeks but at this point I have no expectations.

As an aside, this dealership has a way different feel than San Francisco BMW. There were a lot more M cars on display, the dealer had a much lighter, less technical atmosphere. Our of curiosity i priced out some things I remember from BMW SF and was blown away. It was much, much more expensive than BMW SF. From parts to their "value services" for the E46. And I thought SF was expensive....

A little surprised but here's my guess. SF people don't drive their cars as much. Irvine deals with a lot of Newport Beach/South Coast clientele (read: VERY well off) who put bigger miles on their car and don't really care about what it costs to maintain them ("just fix it and send me the bill") - so they can get away with higher prices. Plus, they probably don't have as much competition from Tesla and Maserati and the like for new cars in Irvine like an LA BMW dealer would or an SF dealer might, so a high end pricey BMW is not a big deal... it's not like many are going to say - well I'll just get a Tesla instead. Just theories.

[stephenkirsh]

My fiancé is from LA. Before we started dating I went to LA maybe 3 times in the previous 10 years. Now I'm down there a few times a year.

It's a completely different vibe for cars. It's truly the car Mecca of the U.S. And I think everything JR says is correct. One of the things I love about visiting is seeing all the different and rare cars.

My soon to be father in law takes me to a car show (more of a cars and coffee thing: look up SuperCarSunday.com) at a mall in West Hills on Sundays if I'm there. There's gotta be $25 mil in cars there some times. A ferrari 458 is boring at these events. Last time there was a Bugatti veyron SS just chillin there. And this event happens every Sunday.

[KevinC]

Having grown up in the bay area, and then spent 20 years in OC, working very nearby said Irvine stealership - I can confirm that Rando is spot-on in his speculation.

[Pip]

Yup definitely strange. I spend a fair amount of time in the valley and it's funny to see extremely nice cars outside seemingly meh houses and that's the valley. Only thing that sucks is the roads/freeways. For a car area they are brutal. I would live in SD if I moved down there because the roads are much nicer.

[TigerTater]

Got on the list...15 ppl ahead of me. Well guess I'm glad I called, the SA said they haven't done many of these recalls so far so hopefully they figure it out before they get to mine!

[stephenkirsh]

Got on the list...15 ppl ahead of me. Well guess I'm glad I called, the SA said they haven't done many of these recalls so far so hopefully they figure it out before they get to mine!

Wow that's strange. My stealership said they had done hundreds when I did mine 6 weeks ago.

[SoCalZman]

Wow that's strange. My stealership said they had done hundreds when I did mine 6 weeks ago.

E46s are as common as Camrys in California. Not sure that is the case in other parts of the country

[cakM3]

E46s are as common as Camrys in California. Not sure that is the case in other parts of the country

I see lots of E46 BMWs here as well.....

[Pip]

On the waiting list so should be sometime in...late next year?

[3ZHP]

I called this morning to schedule an appointment for next week and they still didn't have the parts.


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[TigerTater]

E46s are as common as Camrys in California. Not sure that is the case in other parts of the country

Yea this. I do see some e 46s around town but most are dingy and don't appear to be well taken care of. Plus the number is much lower than other car models 10 yrs old. Lots of old pickup trucks lol

[Pip]

I called this morning to schedule an appointment for next week and they still didn't have the parts.


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My dealer just told me they let me know when they have the parts in stock. Not sure if I trust them but would rather at this point.

[UdubBadger]

My dealer just told me they let me know when they have the parts in stock. Not sure if I trust them but would rather at this point.

Same.

[TheFinanceGuy]

yeah. I'm still waiting...

[johnrando]

I had to call my local dealer a few times. "your on the list", "what list", "you're not on a list", "well, there is not really a list", "each service advisor has their own list". I kept pushing. Finally I got to, "you're #26 on the list". I think you have to push, lol.

[stephenkirsh]

Damn that's ridiculous!

[mbeckel]

I had to call my local dealer a few times. "your on the list", "what list", "you're not on a list", "well, there is not really a list", "each service advisor has their own list". I kept pushing. Finally I got to, "you're #26 on the list". I think you have to push, lol.
I'm on a "wait list" as well. The dealer (BMW of Houston North) told me their is a national shortage of parts. All I can do is wait..... tapping foot.....

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[johnrando]

It sounds like this is a squeaky wheel thing. Call 'em back and find out your #. Then ping them to see the progress in a week (or two or whatever). My local dealer almost implied that they were working with their service customers first w/o really saying it. I've only bought some parts from them, stopped getting service years ago when CPO ran out.

[kayger12]

I had to call my local dealer a few times. "your on the list", "what list", "you're not on a list", "well, there is not really a list", "each service advisor has their own list". I kept pushing. Finally I got to, "you're #26 on the list". I think you have to push, lol.

This. I called every two or three weeks. Too easy for them to pass you over or for something to get missed if they don't hear from you for months.

[UdubBadger]

Yeah on the phone with the dealer right now

[UdubBadger]

Yeah pretty sure they just blew me off, "you're on our list" doesn't sound too reassuring. Sounds more like - "We're waiting till we have holes in our schedule of paid repairs for 65% upcharge on labor costs before we schedule people to come in for free work"

[ryankokesh]

Yeah pretty sure they just blew me off, "you're on our list" doesn't sound too reassuring. Sounds more like - "We're waiting till we have holes in our schedule of paid repairs for 65% upcharge on labor costs before we schedule people to come in for free work"

Does BMW not pay them?

[UdubBadger]

I'm sure they do but not their sky high inflated rates of many dealerships, such as the master ripoff artist known as Perillo BMW

[ryankokesh]

I got on the list at basney today. Super nice guy. Said his list isn't too long, but that the total waiting list for the U.S. is over 20k people. The next ship heading over next month will have 2000 replacements....


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[BADCLOWN]

sounds like they'll get this recall done nationwide by about 2020

[ryankokesh]

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath....


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[SoCalZman]

looks like the NHTSA wants BMW to recall our drivers side airbags and is willing to take BMW to court to get it done. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2014/12/nhtsa-ready-force-nationwide-takata-airbag-recall/

I was at a different BMW shop (creville) picking up oil and asked about the airbags. The guy said they had a list like Irvine, and they didnt know when they would get to everyone. They get 10 airbags a day on average, and the list is over 200 long right now. I wondered aloud what are the chances that these new airbags have the same problem as our current ones since they are also from Takata and he said thats a good point. Maybe I will wait awhile to make sure the replacement airbags dont also have a defect. Maybe next year we will have airbags from another supplier instead of Takata replacements. That would make me feel better.