Gruppe M intake (Look Quickly!)

[M3TA5IN]

I'm with Justin on this one. If all you care about is look and noise then by all means get whatever makes you happy. I'm all about functionality though, so I would say BMW performance for e46 IMO. although I'm not as up to date on intakes for the e46 platform as you guys.

This is the reason I don't have a CAI on the e90. Was saving penny's for the euro air box (same as BMW PE) without the fancy carbon fiber. Only CAI with proven, not skewed smoke and mirrors, gains.

On the M3 once I get to where I start messing with the engine bay, the active CAI will be the first thing to come off. Yea it sounds good, but functionally it is not doing anything for me if anything hurting me. Will probably do bimmerworlds intake.

The other thing that kills me about the aftermarket CAIs I the "heat shields". I mean come on, you don't need to have a degree in rocket science to look at those and realize they aren't stopping a lot of heat.


Edit: if I was all about looks and sound I'd get a gruppe M all the way.

Sent from my fancy city machine.

[derbo]

Precisely. The long tube provides the flow necessary to allow for accurate readings while increasing volume.

THIS THREAD highlights the main differences between intakes, and while its an import magazine, the science is still there and by a reputable individual as well.

Don't mind Carcus, he's a huge douche. Dare I say it, a bigger one than Iceman....

Horney...via TT.

I realize that a long tube provides proper laminar flow. I want to take off the Gruppe M intake off and see what is behind the Air Filter. I almost positive it has the velocity stack as well. I think the gains are neglible with the intake. I got the intake for noise during track days so I could hear the damn thing during racing. From the looks of it, I probably have the same HP as a stock intake. If I ever get some dynotime, I'll try and bring my stock intake and see what I end up with both intakes.




Reason I didn't get a BMW performance one is that there is no reusable filter. I didn't feel like buying air filters all the time for this thing. I also noticed its quieter than the rest of the intakes. Dinan was definitely on the list to get as well and AFE. It was really whichever one I found cheaper under $300 right off the bat.

[UdubBadger]

Ok fair enough


- Goin' H.A.M. Mobile

[nike001]

OP, Sack up and get individual TB velocity stacks

[Hornung418]

That's a completely different game...although I did see a set of six on bf.c for $260 + shipping

Horney...via TT.

[webster]

$350 shipped seems pretty reasonable. not a big fan of the look personally (i prefer OEM clean look), but if the sound is there, and that's what you'er after, then go for it!

[Hornung418]

It would appear from their website that they also use K&N wet filters...which can foul the MAF and also throw off readings.

And Derek, the website also shows no use of a velocity stack, rather a crude coupler and a length of PVC.

http://www.gruppem.co.jp/matching/pr...?goods_id=1286

[macpro_racer2010]

I've been waiting for the best price on an AFE CAI. I pulled the trigger today! Total cost for the PRO DRY S was $298.32, regular price was $350.97, I used the coupon code MYRIDE15 (15% off). Thanks for the info Bruce

[danewilson77]

That's an amazing price. I paid closer to $390.00 I believe, for the PRO5R, then went to dry.

Closest I could find to that....

http://www.truckpartshub.com/product...0l-l6-51-10451

[derbo]

It would appear from their website that they also use K&N wet filters...which can foul the MAF and also throw off readings.

And Derek, the website also shows no use of a velocity stack, rather a crude coupler and a length of PVC.

http://www.gruppem.co.jp/matching/pr...?goods_id=1286

It looks like that crude piece called a "funnel" would be their excuse of an velocity stack. I was wrong about a velocity stack being behind there. Thanks bud for the enlightenment.

Now you have me wondering about intake HP now.. DAMMIT. Ignorance is bliss..