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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johal E32 View Post
    So..

    Sell me the 135i bbk.

    Buy some porsche calipers, get some rallyroad.net adaptors, and rock the M3 CSL rotors. Win, win for both of us!
    The only way the BMW Performance BBK is worth the money is if you rebuild them with the StopTech pistons. By the way, they cost $450, so you're looking at some serious cash.

    I don't know about Derek, but I found them to not really be worth their price. If I knew at the time that they'd need rebuilding after a couple of track days, then I would've bought some Wilwoods and called it a day. I loved these until I found about the piston cracking issue that's so common with these calipers, and still liked them enough until they actually destroyed one of my rotors from a stuck piston.

    For street driving they're fine though; they look the part that's for sure.
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  2. #442
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    So where are the official pics of the rear end ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    The only way the BMW Performance BBK is worth the money is if you rebuild them with the StopTech pistons. By the way, they cost $450, so you're looking at some serious cash.

    I don't know about Derek, but I found them to not really be worth their price. If I knew at the time that they'd need rebuilding after a couple of track days, then I would've bought some Wilwoods and called it a day. I loved these until I found about the piston cracking issue that's so common with these calipers, and still liked them enough until they actually destroyed one of my rotors from a stuck piston.

    For street driving they're fine though; they look the part that's for sure.

    B,

    Seems like you and I fell into the impulsiveness and the "hotness" of the 6 piston caliper too. Racingbrake.com has a better setup with SS pistons with high temp seals but is still in the same price range just for parts alone. I didn't know you lost a rotor to a stuck piston...what did you end up doing? getting rid of the brakes or rebuilding the caliper?



    I've talked to Dave @ APEXraceparts and he mentioned the 17" will clear 345mm rotors no problem. He believes the caliper will also clear just a matter of getting the right offset. My 17x8.5 +40 is cutting it close but it may work or may need a 10mm spacer.




    Vas,

    there was some difficulties from the salvage yard and freight company. It's arriving at kalim's house this thursday.

  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johal E32 View Post
    So..

    Sell me the 135i bbk.

    Buy some porsche calipers, get some rallyroad.net adaptors, and rock the M3 CSL rotors. Win, win for both of us!
    the whole idea is to find a bbk that works with 17. I may just go stock ZCP calipers too or just plain e46 m3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derbo View Post
    B,

    Seems like you and I fell into the impulsiveness and the "hotness" of the 6 piston caliper too. Racingbrake.com has a better setup with SS pistons with high temp seals but is still in the same price range just for parts alone. I didn't know you lost a rotor to a stuck piston...what did you end up doing? getting rid of the brakes or rebuilding the caliper?
    I ended up reverting to my old rotors and calipers. Can't rebuild the yellow ones; way too much money. Not in the budget for this year.




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    2005 330i ZHP / 6MT
    Imolarot / Naturbraun
    2003 330iT / 6MT
    Orientblau / Naturbraun




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    Quote Originally Posted by az3579 View Post
    I ended up reverting to my old rotors and calipers. Can't rebuild the yellow ones; way too much money. Not in the budget for this year.




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    I sold my 330i calipers. I'm seriously thinking going back to 330i front calipers. I believe pads + track only rotors with my cooling ducts will be more than enough for what I am doing right now.

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    My stock 330 brakes with brass bushings, fresh Ate fluid, OEM rotors, and semi-track pads (Porterfield R4-S) have not had any overheating problems. I have the stock cooling ducts into the wheelwell without any ducting direct to the rotors. But I know Derbo drives harder and faster than me at the track, so he might need more heat management capacity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivesNearCostco View Post
    My stock 330 brakes with brass bushings, fresh Ate fluid, OEM rotors, and semi-track pads (Porterfield R4-S) have not had any overheating problems. I have the stock cooling ducts into the wheelwell without any ducting direct to the rotors. But I know Derbo drives harder and faster than me at the track, so he might need more heat management capacity!
    Like I said the only reason I got the 135i was they looked so nice in the e46. Their track performance isn't exactly worth the price though. The looks of a bbk is a great deal but for a track built car I think I may go back to 330i brakes


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    Kalim has a list of m3 front suspension to swap to so I may look into that too for more options on rotors and pad selection.


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    Honestly I would look into a wilwood kit using some fsl calipers. Plenty of pad options , forged light calipers, and etc.

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